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		<title>Y-DNA, It&#8217;s a Guy Thing&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just when I thought I’d have nothing notable to report this week, my Ancestry DNA test results came in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.rickleonard.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DNAResults252x252.jpg" alt="DNAResults252x252" title="DNAResults252x252" width="252" height="252" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1412" />Just when I thought I&#8217;d have nothing notable to report this week, my Ancestry DNA test results came in! I <em>did</em> tell you I was doing that, right? No? Hm-m-m, musta had another senior moment. And I promise NOT to become a DNA snob.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the poop. Ancestry was really quick to deliver the DNA collection kit and I was quick to return it a little over three weeks ago. Lessee, by my calculations, that&#8217;s a results turnaround time of, oh, a little over three weeks.</p>
<p>When I logged on to see the HUNDREDS of potential matches a couple of days ago, there was&#8230; nothing. I resisted the urge to pick up the phone and scream bloody murder, knowing that science (and technology) doesn&#8217;t necessarily move at the speed of genealogy. Or maybe it does. At any rate, it takes a few days for the matches to start showing up.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where it gets interesting. Of the 250 potential matches that&#8217;ve turned up so far, only ONE is actually named &#8220;Leonard.&#8221; Given that I took a <em>paternal</em> DNA test, which only traces those genes that males pass to males, that&#8217;s an awful lot of unexplained &#8220;paternal events.&#8221; Then again, the results show that all of <em>those</em> events happened at least 60 generations (roughly 1500 years) ago.</p>
<p>Getting to the point now&#8230; the ONE result that was the closest match (we have all but <em>one</em> marker in common) is a gentleman that I actually traded email with last year. He and I have a Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) nine generations ago. The test doesn&#8217;t tell us specifically who it was, but it means we&#8217;re probably connected through one of Benjamin Leonard&#8217;s sons. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let <em>him</em> decide if he wants to &#8220;out&#8221; himself to our little group here, but I can tell you there&#8217;s one WHALE of a story in his family&#8217;s fairly recent past. (No, not <em>that</em> kind of whale.)</p>
<p>He&#8217;s hit a brick wall and could use some help if you have any Leonard connections in the state of New York. For me, that&#8217;s a complete blind spot. I know there are/were Leonards there, but I&#8217;ve never had a reason to track them down. Now I do.</p>
<p>The only other match considered &#8220;close&#8221; by DNA standards is a gentleman who appears to be related via an ancestor <em>fifteen</em> generations back, which pre-dates Solomon, but not by very much. It might&#8217;ve been a great uncle or grandfather. I&#8217;m looking forward to comparing notes with that contributor.</p>
<p>None of this means there are no more Solomon descendants out there, it simply means there aren&#8217;t a lot of samples to compare. It also means I&#8217;m more closely related to all of <em>you</em> than to anyone involved in DNA testing at this point. <a href="http://www.bradsport.com/" target="_blank"><acronym title="Iron Leonard descendant">Brad Leonard</acronym></a> tells me there are a few more Solomon descendants over on that <em><a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/" target="_blank"><acronym title="Family Tree DNA">other</acronym"></a></em> DNA service, so I&#8217;ll be connecting with them in the coming weeks. </p>
<p>In other news, we made decent progress in untangling a BUNCH of Nancy Leonards this week, Allan and I are hot on the trail of the old Burt Bible (it may be hiding in Washington County), and I joined the New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS). All in all, not a bad week, I&#8217;d say. And if you have any ancestors or connections in the state of New York, speak now&#8230; or something bad will happen later.  <img src='http://www.rickleonard.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>DNA, CSI, WTF?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DNA testing, if you believe the hype, is one of the hottest things going in family history/genealogy today. I've been approached more than once about contributing a sample to one database or another. So I finally decided to look into it. Guess what I found.

First off, you all know that the DNA "science" we see on the sixteen versions of CSI/Law and Order is mostly crap, right? You won't get your results in half an hour, they won't tell you whodunnit, and the chances of finding a long-lost relative are practically nil....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.rickleonard.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dna252x252.jpg" alt="dna252x252" title="dna252x252" width="252" height="252" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1224" />DNA testing, if you believe the hype, is one of the hottest things going in family history/genealogy today. I&#8217;ve been approached more than once about contributing a sample to one database or another. So I finally decided to look into it. Guess what I found.</p>
<p>First off, you all know that the DNA &#8220;science&#8221; we see on the sixteen versions of CSI/Law and Order is mostly crap, right? You won&#8217;t get your results in half an hour, they won&#8217;t tell you whodunnit, and the chances of finding a long-lost relative are practically nil. What you <em>might</em> discover, is whether you and another donor <em>might</em> have a common ancestor.</p>
<p>One thing TV gets <em>right</em> once in a while, is the fact that DNA results are only useful if you have something with which to compare them. Find someone with similar genes, and you <em>might</em> be able to determine your Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA). And in order to do <em>that</em>, the two of you have to do the research! No such thing as a free lunch, right?</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go into the dirty details of genes, genomes, haplogroups and markers&#8230; except to say there are basically three types of DNA tests. One compares male genes to male genes, another compares female to female or male, and a third ignores gender altogether and compares ethnic markers for a really <em>big</em> picture. The more markers you test for, the more expensive the test&#8230; individually priced for your convenience.  <img src='http://www.rickleonard.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The Y-DNA test only applies to males, since they&#8217;re the only ones blessed with a Y chromosome. In this case, us guys can compare genes to any <em>other</em> male, preferably someone with the same surname. (There&#8217;s a measurement joke in there, and I&#8217;m just going to leave it.) If there are similarities, the test will <em>estimate</em> how far back we have to go to find a common ancestor. It&#8217;s usually accurate within a generation or two, but can&#8217;t indicate specifically <em>who</em> the ancestor might be. So we&#8217;re back to research again.</p>
<p>The mtDNA or Mitochondrial DNA test is the female equivalent of the Y-DNA test, with a twist. Mothers, you see, contribute Mitochondrial DNA to their offspring, both male AND female. The twist is this&#8230; ONLY females can pass it along to the next generation. Therefore, an mtDNA test on ME would confirm my mother&#8217;s identity (assuming I had her sample, too), but the same test performed on my son would provide NO indication who <em>either</em> of his grandmothers were. The same test done on two women could tell them if they are related, but because ALL women pass along their mtDNA, the estimate of Most Recent Common Ancestor could be off by a thousand years! Crap. Back to the research.</p>
<p>Last but not least, <em>autosomal</em> DNA tests compare non-sex chromosomes to look for ethnic similarities. I already know my ancestors originated in northern Europe, so it probably wouldn&#8217;t tell me much else.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the deal&#8230; if you&#8217;re primarily tracing one surname, Y-DNA is the way to go. Ladies, you&#8217;ll have to ask your father or brother to contribute for you. If we compare two men with the same surname, assumed to be closely related, and they do NOT match&#8230; we have what&#8217;s euphemistically called &#8220;a non-paternal event.&#8221; *snicker* It happens, and not that infrequently.</p>
<p>No such complications with the mtDNA test, unless there was a serious mistake at the hospital. We can trace a whole long line of grandmothers with mtDNA, but the test can&#8217;t tell us their order of birth. Damn. Back to the research again.</p>
<p>The jury is still out on autosomal DNA tests, but the bottom line is, it&#8217;ll cost you a bundle to find out your grandmother was one-sixteenth Cherokee and even <em>then</em> it won&#8217;t tell you <em>which</em> grandmother.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running long and I apologize, but it&#8217;s a complex decision, whether to test or not. And I haven&#8217;t even touched on privacy concerns, lab credibility, or competing companies. There are essentially two major players in the DNA-genealogy field right now. <a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/" target="_blank">Family Tree DNA</a> got the jump on <a href="http://dna.ancestry.com/welcome.aspx">Ancestry.com DNA</a> by a couple of years and therefore has a slightly larger database with which to compare. Ancestry.com is cutting prices and I suspect the two companies will be head-to-head in very short order.</p>
<p>Will I contribute? Probably. We&#8217;ll see. I&#8217;m leaning toward Ancestry&#8217;s $79 Y-DNA test. Unless, of course, Family Tree wants to make me a better offer.  <img src='http://www.rickleonard.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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